In this episode, James Patrick chats with Dave Dreas, the founder and owner of Arizona Training Lab in Arizona as well as the new men’s product line SKOR FOR MEN about the true journey fitness entrepreneurs have to take.

The two discuss the difference between freelancers and entrepreneurs, the truth behind passive income streams and what the path looks like for those looking to scale their brands and their businesses.

Warning; this will confront what you’ve been told about owning your own business and shatter it. But then James and Dave will talk about what the journey can look like when successful.

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